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PostSubject: AOE3~ Rankings & Tips.. ORIGINAL VERSION   Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:48 am

As posted on agecomm by GoodSpeed

Basic ingame tips:

Iím just gonna start off with a few very important basic things about this game that you need to remember at all time:

Never stop creating villagers, only in emergency situations.
Never leave a single villager idle!
Put your explorer to good use. Make sure youíve explored all the huntables (animals) on the map (dead animals mean enemy villagers) for good raiding and herding, and make sure you make the best of your explorerís ability to collect treasures.
Adapt to the opponentís army. Always search for the right counters and make sure your army isnít worth less than it cost. (also never fight when you canít win the battle, keep retreating until youíve reached a location (your town centre or fort) that is most favourable for you or will hopefully scare off your opponent).
Raid. This can make the game turn from losing to winning or even from losing to immediate victory. Do so with cavalry, preferably hand cavalry like hussars or cuirassiers. The best raiders are of course oprichniks.
The opposite of raiding, keep your own villagers protected. If you are out of huntables or gold near your TC, only send your vills over unprotected if you have map control and are pressurizing your opponent with military. If both armies are large and map is divided, always make sure you have either towers or another TC at your hunting or gold location.
Micro: Always make sure the right unit is fighting the right unit, hit and run, retreat when necessary, and use advanced formations.
Build multiple TCís for a booming economy. This can make big differences.
Keep your army moving as much as possible. Always look for enemy vills and pressurize his town and army with ranged units.
Allocate your villagers correctly. Each civ has itís own needs. For example Dutch need a lot of gold, and Portuguese need a lot of food. More on that later.
Keep hunting as long as possible, donít go over to mills too quickly, as this will cost you a lot of wood and will gather much slower.
Herd! meaning put a vill behind the animal and shoot. he'll run the way your vil was facing. like this get your huntables close to your tc.


List of unit counters:

(light infantry = all ranged infantry except musketeers and janissaries, heavy infantry is all anti-cavalry inf.)



Ranged cavalry > cavalry and cannon

Hand cavalry > Light infantry and cannon

Heavy infantry > Cavalry

Light infantry > Heavy infantry and Ranged cavalry

Cannon > infantry.



Civs from best to worst:



Overall:

1. Spanish

2. Dutch

3. French
4. Russians

5. British

6. Germans

7. Ottomans

8. Portuguese



Boom/turtling:

1. British

2. Dutch

3. Portuguese
4. Russians

5. French

6. Germans
7. Spanish
8. Ottomans



Usefullness of Fishing:

1. British
2. Portuguese
3. Spanish
4. Russians
5. Ottomans
6. Dutch
7. French (no schooners)
8. Germans (no schooners)



Strength of colonial Rush:
1. Ottomans
2. Russians

3. Spanish
4. French

5. British
6. Germans
7. Dutch

8. Portuguese



Strength of Fast Fortress:

1. Spanish
2. Dutch

3. French
4. Portuguese
5. Germans
6. Ottomans
7. Russians
8. British



Early game potential:

1. Ottomans
2. Spanish
3. Russians
4. French

5. British

6. Dutch
7. Germans

8. Portuguese



Middle/late game potential:

1. Dutch
2. Germans

3. Portuguese

4. French

5. Russians

6. British

7. Spanish

8. Ottomans



For Civ Specific STRATEGIES click here

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PostSubject: Re: AOE3~ Rankings & Tips.. ORIGINAL VERSION   Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:40 am

Quote :
Overall:

1. Spanish

2. Dutch

3. French
4. Russians

5. British

6. Germans

7. Ottomans

8. Portuguese

Wtf? If this is Vanilla, Ottomans are NOT number 7. Ottomans are number 1 on Vanilla.


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Usefullness of Fishing:

1. British
2. Portuguese
3. Spanish
4. Russians
5. Ottomans
6. Dutch
7. French (no schooners)
8. Germans (no schooners)

Ottomans and the Portugese have the best boat boom in the game.


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Strength of Fast Fortress:

1. Spanish
2. Dutch

3. French
4. Portuguese
5. Germans
6. Ottomans
7. Russians
8. British

Wtf? Portugese have one of the strongest FF's, and the Ottomans and Spanish have an excellent FF as well.

Your lists = Fail
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PostSubject: Re: AOE3~ Rankings & Tips.. ORIGINAL VERSION   Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:05 pm

Stop critizing all day long dude. mmm coffee
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PostSubject: Re: AOE3~ Rankings & Tips.. ORIGINAL VERSION   Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:56 pm

James246 wrote:
Quote :
Overall:

1. Spanish

2. Dutch

3. French
4. Russians

5. British

6. Germans

7. Ottomans

8. Portuguese
ur criticism=fail as this is for vanilla
Wtf? If this is Vanilla, Ottomans are NOT number 7. Ottomans are number 1 on Vanilla.


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Usefullness of Fishing:

1. British
2. Portuguese
3. Spanish
4. Russians
5. Ottomans
6. Dutch
7. French (no schooners)
8. Germans (no schooners)

Ottomans and the Portugese have the best boat boom in the game.


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Strength of Fast Fortress:

1. Spanish
2. Dutch

3. French
4. Portuguese
5. Germans
6. Ottomans
7. Russians
8. British

Wtf? Portugese have one of the strongest FF's, and the Ottomans and Spanish have an excellent FF as well.

Your lists = Fail

ur criticism=fail as this is for vanilla and ottos are definately NOT 1 overall.. i mean their eco sucks so much ass its amazing ud put them in the top 5

dutch 3 bank FF is unstoppable if uv ever played anyone tht does this.... and gets to fortress... french and their FF is awesome if done correctly cuz of their vils r better... spain FF cuz of their cav things r OP...

brits r best boat boom as they manor boom and boat boom at the same time.. wit all upgrade cards its the 2nd best IMO but if we r talkin rush game then its best.. ur obsessed wit ottos and i can tell u dont use other civs as ottos boat boom is VERY slow and makes their eco suck cuz of how slow their vils train and like i said if we r talkin rush then i would put them last...

get off the ottos and go look at some of the other civs.. u think too highly of ottomans

also as i stated in the first post.. this is by goodspeed.. who is a captain or brigadier? i agree wit all of it pretty much and this is an argument u will eventually lose

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PostSubject: Re: AOE3~ Rankings & Tips.. ORIGINAL VERSION   Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:10 am

Ottomans IOR > Every other Vanilla Strategy

Don't you guys know anything?.....

Maybe try reading AgeSanc or Heavegames forums...

Seriously.
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PostSubject: Re: AOE3~ Rankings & Tips.. ORIGINAL VERSION   Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:42 pm

which is why ur a field marshall if its better than all strats?

every strat has its counters and tht one does too... IOR stands for wat? need to kno tht first i guess lol

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PostSubject: Re: AOE3~ Rankings & Tips.. ORIGINAL VERSION   Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:51 pm

AOE3: The Asian Dynasties Unit Chart (1.00) In general...

Counter Heavy Infantry with Skirmishers and Archers (Infantry) or Artillery.

Counter Infantry with Heavy Cavalry, Light Infantry or Artillery.

Counter Light Infantry with Heavy Infantry using hand attack.

Counter Heavy Cavalry with Light (Ranged) Cavalry or Heavy Infantry using hand attack.

Counter Light (Ranged) Cavalry with Skirmishers and Archers (Infantry) or Heavy Infantry using hand attack.

Counter Artillery with Heavy Cavalry, Light (Ranged) Cavalry or other Artillery.

Infantry AbusGun Veteran Cacadore Crossbowman Longbowman MercJaeger Minuteman NatBlackwoodArcher NatBlowgunAmbusher NatBlowgunWarrior NatBolasWarrior NatHuronMantlet NativeScout NatKlamathRifleman NatMantlet NatMercBlackwoodArcher NatMercBlowgunWarrior NatMercRifleman NatMercTracker NatNavajoRifleman NatRifleman NatSharktoothBowman NatTracker SaloonOutlawRifleman Skirmisher Strelet xpAenna Veteran xpArrowKnight xpMacehualtin Veteran xpMantlet xpMedicineManAztec (Warrior Priest) xpMusketWarrior (Forest Prowler) Veteran xpPetard Veteran xpPetardNitro Veteran xpRam xpSpy xpWarBow (Cetan Bow) xpWarRifle (Wakina Rifle) xpWarrior Veteran ypArquebusier ypChuKoNu ypFlameThrower ypIrregular ypIrregularIndians ypMercIronTroop ypNatMercGurkha ypNatMercGurkhaJemadar ypShinobiHorse ypThuggee ypUrumi ypUrumiMansabdar ypWokouBlindMonk ypYumi

Heavy Infantry Dopplesoldner Grenadier Veteran Halberdier Janissary MercBarbaryCorsair MercFusilier MercHighlander MercLandsknecht MercNinja MercRonin MercSwissPikeman Musketeer NatClubman NatClubmanLoyal NatHolcanSpearman NatHuaminca NatJaguarWarrior NatLightningWarrior NatMapucheClubman NatMercClubman NatMercHolcanSpearman NatMercLightningWarrior NatTomahawk Pikeman Rodelero SaloonOutlawPistol SaloonPirate Veteran xpColonialMilitia Veteran xpJaguarKnight xpPumaMan xpSkullKnight xpTomahawk xpWarClub ypAshigaru Veteran ypChangdao ypDacoit ypKensei Veteran ypMercArsonist ypNatChakram ypNatMercChakram ypNatSohei ypPeasant ypPeasantIndians ypQiangPikeman ypRajput ypRajputMansabdar ypSepoy ypSepoyMansabdar ypWokouPirate ypWokouWaywardRonin ypYamabushi

Light Infantry NatEagleWarrior xpCoyoteMan Veteran xpEagleKnight ypMonkDisciple ypNatMercRattanShield ypNatMercTigerClaw ypNatRattanShield ypNatTigerClaw

Heavy Cavalry Cossack Veteran Cuirassier Hussar Veteran Lancer MercElmeti MercHackapell MercMameluke MercStradiot NatAxeRider NatAxeRiderDogSoldier NatCheyenneRider NatMercCheyenneRider Veteran Oprichnik Veteran Spahi Uhlan xpAxeRider Veteran xpCoupRider (Tashunke Prowler) xpDogSoldier xpHorseman (Kanya Horseman) xpRifleRider ypDaimyoKiyomasa Veteran ypDaimyoMasamune ypDaimyoMototada Veteran ypIronFlail Veteran ypMahout Veteran ypMahoutMansabdar ypMercFlailiphant ypMercFlailiphantMansabdar ypMercJatLancer Veteran ypMeteorHammer ypMongolScout ypNaginataRider ypNatMercWarElephant ypNatWarElephant ypShogunTokugawa ypSowar ypSowarMansabdar ypSteppeRider

Light Cavalry (aka Ranged Cavalry) CavalryArcher Dragoon MercBlackRider MercManchu NatApacheCavalry NatHorseArcher NatMercHorseArcher Ruyter SaloonOutlawRider Veteran WarWagon xpBowRider xpMusketRider xpRifleRider Veteran ypHowdah Veteran ypHowdahMansabdar ypKeshik ypMercYojimbo ypNatConquistador ypNatMercConquistador ypSiegeElephant ypSiegeElephantMansabdar ypWokouWanderingHorseman Veteran ypYabusame ypZamburak ypZamburakMansabdar

Artillery Cannon Culverin Falconet GreatBombard MercGreatCannon Mortar OrganGun Rocket xpGatlingGun xpHorseArtillery xpLightCannon ypFlamingArrow ypFlyingCrow ypHandMortar ypMorutaru ypSiegeElephant ypSiegeElephantMansabdar

Banner Armies ypBlackFlagArmy ypForbiddenArmy ypImperialArmy ypMingArmy ypMongolianArmy ypOldHanArmy ypStandardArmy ypTerritorialArmy

adding more to the "general knowledge" of the game

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